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X-From_: owner-EAT-L@LISTSERV.VT.EDU Tue Mar 4 16:43:05 1997 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:23:39 -0500 Reply-To: Foodlore/Recipe Exchange <EAT-L@LISTSERV.VT.EDU> Sender: Foodlore/Recipe Exchange <EAT-L@LISTSERV.VT.EDU> From: Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@LISTSERV.VT.EDU> Subject: EAT-L Digest - 3 Mar 1997 to 4 Mar 1997 - Special issue To: Recipients of EAT-L digests <EAT-L@LISTSERV.VT.EDU> There are 34 messages totalling 1403 lines in this issue. Topics in this special issue: 1. Subscription problems 2. Cincinnati Chili 3. DESSERT (2) 4. whipped topping (3) 5. Is coconut good for you? 6. Recipe Request (4) 7. <No subject given> 8. Another Coconut Pie 9. recipe-warm german potatoe salad thank you and recipe 10. Looking for Bruschetta Recipes 11. spaghetti dinner? 12. Request: Chocolate Turtle Bread Pudding with Caramel Sauce 13. Turtle Cake 14. 7-layer salad 15. REQUEST: sour orange recipes (2) 16. Black Forest Cake Request and Chat 17. Recipe: Turtle Cake 18. Black Forest Cherry Cake 19. Question: Menus (4) 20. GOOD FOOD!! 21. planning menues 22. Bread 23. La Creusette Cookware Question 24. Request: Couscous ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 23:07:39 -0500 From: Diane Auriemma <nc501121@NCCVAX.WVNET.EDU> Subject: Re: Subscription problems Here is what I'm trying to do. I found at Bigfoot.com a place you can have a lifetime address so that you don't ever have to have to change your address again. LIke mine is now auriemma@bigfoot.com. All you ever have to do is update your member profile and they will rerout all of your mail to where ever you are. But first I have to figure out how to get the server to take my new address, because it usually goes by the return on you mail headers. Diane in WV On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Rick Silvers wrote: > Hello > > I'm trying to change my email address from Strider@akaMail.com to > Strider@prefer.net but am having a problem getting the Listserv > address to accept my commands.. If possible could someone please > email me the address of someone I can contact about this problem.. > I've tried the request address with no luck.. For some reason I'm > having a problem with all my Listserv mailing list.. > I will only have access to the akaMail address for a few more weeks.. > Any help would be appreciated.. > TIA > > > Rick Silvers > strider@prefer.net / strider@blueridge.net > "If you don't know where your are going,you will wind up somewhere else!"-- Yogi Berra > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 23:29:06 -0500 From: mary curtis <curtism@FUSE.NET> Subject: Cincinnati Chili Last week someone requested Cincinnati Chili. There are many versions of this recipe, one even contains chocolate. This one is the closest thing I have ever found to the one at Skyline and Empress and the rest of the chili parlors. This chili can be served on top of a weiner with mustard and onion and topped with grated cheddar. Then it is a cheese coney. Kids don't like the mustard and onions, and some people just eat the bun and the chili. This chili served over spaghetti is a chili spaghetti; top with grated cheddar and it is a 3-way; add chopped onions and it is a 4-way. Add beans and it is a 5-way. Often oyster crackers can be served on the side. People from Greater Cincinnati take their chili, spaghets very seriously. I was horrified to see a recipe in a national publication talking about this and they said a 5-way had the oyster crackers in place on the beans. Heaven forbid. I personally never get the beans. And I usually get the onions on the side because I don't like too many. Then I tuck them under the cheese--they have to be under the cheese, you know , that's the rule. This chili is very healthy and low-fat, but I suggest you make it and let it cool overnight or all day so you can pull off any residue of fat that remains from your meat. Cincinnati Chili 2 lbs. lean ground beef, veal or turkey 1 qt. tomato juice 1 tsp cinnamon 1 tsp ground cumin 1 whole onion 1 tsp salt 1 1/2 tsp vinegar dash worcheshire 1/8 tsp garlic powder 4 tsp chili powder 1 tsp allspice 1 tsp pepper 1 tsp red pepper 5 bay leaves Combine meat & tomato juice. Mash together. Add remaining ingredients. (The onion should be peeled and placed in the pot. Remove it when the chili is finished.) Bring to a boil--reduce to a simmer--1 1/2 hours. Remove the 5 bay leaves. I hope you enjoy this. Mary Curtis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:16:24 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Nardo" <snardo@ONRAMP.NET> Subject: Re: DESSERT Debralyn Muscato wrote: > > A friend of mine is looking for a dessert to take to a party that has no > fat and no sugar (at least not added sugar). Does anyone have a suggestion > other than fruit? * Exported from MasterCook * Apple Crunch Cobbler Recipe By : Net Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Desserts Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1 cup instant oat meal 1 cup whole wheat flour 1/2 cup apple juice concentrate 1/2 tsp. cinnamon 1 apple 1 egg white 1/4 tsp. baking powder Cut the apple into bite sized pieces. Mix together everything except the apples. Put a thin layer (1/8-1/4") of mixture on the bottom of a non-stick or Pammed round pan. Put apples on top of this. Then spread, plop, drop or get the rest of the mix on top of the apples someway. Then bake at 350F.about 20 minutes. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * Exported from MasterCook * Banana Rice Pudding Recipe By : FF List: Prodigy Food Bulletin Bd (Lucinda Rasmussen) Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Desserts Low Fat Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 3 cups skim milk -- or rice milk 1 cup arborio rice -- arborio, sweet, etc. 3 Bananas -- mashed 1/2 teaspoon Nutmeg Preheat over to 350F. Mix all together well and pour into a 1 1/2 qt casserole. Bake for 1 to 1 1/2 hours, stirring occasionally, until rice is tender. Makes 4 cups. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:44:06 +0100 From: Cheryl Gilbert <cgilbert@XS4ALL.NL> Subject: Re: DESSERT At 01:27 PM 3/3/97 -0500, you wrote: >A friend of mine is looking for a dessert to take to a party that has no >fat and no sugar (at least not added sugar). Does anyone have a suggestion >other than fruit? Also any ideas if she did serve fruit how to make it >exciting? >Thanks, >Debbie > I often take plain non-fat yogurt and in a food processor mix it with shredded apple and cinnamon and raisins. This makes a yummy dessert...If I want to add sugar I use maple syrup... Hope this helps, Cheryl Cheryl Gilbert cgilbert@xs4all.nl ........................................... Do you think I should find it difficult to play at allegory-making about any created thing whatsoever? Who is so feeble-witted that he could not try his hand at it? --Martin Luther ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 03:11:31 -0500 From: Jude Dashiell <jdashiel@EAGLE1.EAGLENET.COM> Subject: Re: whipped topping Neither the tub toping nor the canned topping will stand up for very long unless frozen. Awhile back on this list so it may be in the archives techniques were given for making stabilized whipping creams. These are what the bakers use since they hold their form for up to 24 hours. On Mon, 3 Mar 1997 KRUEGERR@platte.unk.edu wrote: > Hi, folks, > > This weekend I made a Black Forest Cherry Cake as a trial run for a party I'm > having. I'm glad I did because now I have a question. It said to pipe whipped > topping around the edges. I did that and it looked wonderful. > > The problem is it melted pronto, I mean within 30 seconds. The cake was > completely cooled and I used the whipped topping in the tub. I was wondering > if I used the kind in the can if that would stand up better. Does anyone have > any experience with this? I like things to be quick and easy, but I will make > the whipped topping from scratch if I have to. > > Any suggestions? > > Rochelle > jude <jdashiel@eagle1.eaglenet.com> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 03:34:43 -0500 From: Jude Dashiell <jdashiel@EAGLE1.EAGLENET.COM> Subject: Re: Is coconut good for you? That all depends on where you live. The colder the climate the more fat is required. When I say the colder the climate, I include in that how warm a person is able to keep themselves. If anybody is going for Special Forces training, prudence dictates that the person put on several pounds in preparation for the training. Reason is, everything you put on will come off along with extra. That training routinely exposes soldiers to conditions that would induce yhpothermia repeatedly and there are adverse health effects for those who don't add several pounds before the training. On Mon, 3 Mar 1997 cbmcam@cyberramp.net wrote: > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl > > A search of the USDA nutrient database yields the following information: > > One cup of canned coconut milk contains: > > 42.748 grams of SATURATED fat > 2.05 grams of monounsaturated fat > 0.527 grams of polyunsaturated fat > > Fat is fat. The body metabolized the different kinds in different ways, but > it's still fat. You shouldn't have more than 30 (THIRTY!) grams of fat a > day; so, I fail to see how downing a cup of 42.748 grams of saturated fat > could be remotely healthy for you in any way, shape or form. > > I know it may be hard to believe...but... brace yourself... Martha Stewart > is WRONG!!! <gasp> > > If you are concerned about the fat content of food, coconut is best left out > of your diet. My house is considered a Coconut Free Zone. Use the extract if > you absolutely have to have the flavor. > > Carla > > At 01:24 PM 3/3/97 -0500, you wrote: > >I was under the impression that coconut was definitely on the really > >high fat list, and then I saw Martha Stewart making a coconut cake. I > >think she drank the milk and said how good for you it was. This > >confused me. Is it the oil (from the coconut meat) that has a lot of > >fat? Is the milk relatively fat free? Or is it one of those like olive > >oil that raise the things that need to be raised--excuse me I get the > >saturate names mixed up. Mary Curtis > > > > > jude <jdashiel@eagle1.eaglenet.com> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 04:45:58 -0800 From: Bill Spalding <billspa@ICANECT.NET> Subject: Re: Recipe Request Miriam Meier wrote: > > I am looking for a recipe for Crockpot Pork Roast. Please post your replies to > the list so everyone can appreciate them. thanks in advance Here's my contribution: * Exported from MasterCook II * Cranberry-Glazed Pork Roast Recipe By : Serving Size : 12 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Crockpot Pork & Ham Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 16 Oz jellied cranberry sauce 1/2 Cup sugar 1/2 Cup cranberry juice cocktail 1 Teaspoon dry mustard 1/4 Teaspoon cloves 1 sirloin pork roast, extra-lean and boneles 2 Tablespoons cornstarch 2 Tablespoons cold water salt to taste In a medium bowl, mash cranberry sauce with a fork or a potato masher. Stir in sugar, cranberry juice, mustard, and cloves. Place pork roast in slow cooker and pour cranberry sauce mixture over it. Cook on low setting for 6 to 8 hours or until meat is tender. Remove roast and keep warm. With a metal spoon, skim the fat from the liquid in the slow cooker. Pour 2 cups of the liquid (add water to fill out the measure, if necessary) into a small saucepan. Bring to a boil over medium-high heat. Blend cornstarch and cold water to make a paste; stir gradually into boiling liquid. Continue cooking, stirring constantly, until mixture thickens. Add salt to taste. Serve with pork Makes 12 servings. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - NOTES : Nutrition (per serving) 316 calories Total fat 10g, Protein 30 g, carbohydrates 26 g, cholesterol 92 mg, sodium 64 mg. Nutr. Assoc. : 470 0 0 0 0 4587 0 0 0 * Exported from MasterCook II * Crockpot Hawaiian Pork Recipe By : Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Crockpot Pork & Ham Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 3 Pounds Pork Roast, Boneless -- rolled 2 Tablespoons Orange Juice 6 Cloves 2 Tablespoons Honey 1/2 Teaspoon Nutmeg 1 Tablespoon Soy Sauce 1/4 Teaspoon Paprika 2 Tablespoons Lemon Juice 1/4 Cup Catsup 1/2 Teaspoon Recipe Bouquet (Opt) Place the roast on a rack and broil 15-30 minutes or until brown (can be done the night before) Stick the cloves randomly all over the roast. Place the roast into the crockpot on the meat rack. Mix together the nutmeg and paprika, sprinkle over the roast. In a small bowl, stir together the catsup, orange juice, honey, soy sauce, lemon juice and kitchen bouquet, pour over roast. Cover and cook on LOW 10-12 hours or on HIGH 4-6 hours. Remove the meat from crockpot and thicken juices by mixing together 1 1/2 tbps cornstarch and 2 tbsp water, whisk into juices and cook on HIGH until thickened. Source: Unknown - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * Exported from MasterCook II * Oriental Pork Roast Recipe By : Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :6:00 Categories : Crockpot Pork & Ham Our Favorites Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 4 Lb Pork Roast 1 Tbsp Flour 1 Tbsp Sugar 1 Tsp Garlic Powder 1/2 Tsp Ginger 1/2 Tsp Salt 1/2 C Orange Juice 1/4 C Lemon Juice 1/4 C Soy Sauce 2 Tbsp Ketchup Mix ingredients together. Place roast in crockpot and pour mixture over it. Cook on low for 6-8 hours Source: Unknown - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- BillS. :) >From beautiful suburban West Palm Beach, FL ---Count Spatula...A food-sucking vampire! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 07:03:36 -0600 From: Stephanie Manley <medea@FLASH.NET> Subject: <No subject given> I don't know how to make the packet, but at some places you can buy powdered cheese sauce. I have most often seen it in day old bakery shops, and I think Lawery's might make a powdered cheese sauce, but you will need to go to a larger grocery store for that. Stephanie ---------- : From: Teasel <teasel@juno.com> : To: eat-l@LISTSERV.VT.EDU : Subject: : Date: Monday, March 03, 1997 1:30 PM : : Commercial macaroni and cheese (e. g., Kraft's) includes a : packet of dried cheese/milk/seasonings. : : My mother made wonderful (but unbelievably rich) baked : macaroni and cheese using this cheese mix as a seasoning : packet for her own sauce. : : Does anyone know how to make the packet insted of having to : buy a box of macaroni and cheese mix? With all the make a : mix cookbooks, I should think that this would be able to : duplicate at home, but have not yet seen it. : : Thank you very much. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 13:15:00 -0500 From: "Rinck, Marvin L." <mrinck@NATIONAL.AAA.COM> Subject: Another Coconut Pie Impossible Pie Desert--Pie 1-3/4 cups sugar 2 cups milk 1/2 stick margarine 1 cup coconut 4 eggs 1 teaspoon vanilla 1/2 cup self-rising flour Mix well and pour into pie pan. Bake at 350 degrees till done (approx. 40 minutes). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:32:44 -0800 From: Jean Jones <bruja@DPLUS.NET> Subject: Re: Recipe Request Miriam, I don't have a crockpot but I love cooking a pork roast or even smaller pieces of pork and/ or sausages with saurkraut, a chopped onion and a chopped apple. I cook this slowly on top of the stove. I know it could be easily cooked in a crockpot. Jean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:54:49 -0800 From: Jean Jones <bruja@DPLUS.NET> Subject: Re: recipe-warm german potatoe salad thank you and recipe Hello Pat, Your lemon dessert sounds delicious. I will put it in my collection. I didn't send you my family's way of making German potato salad so here it is: Boil potatoes in their jackets. Peel when cool enough to handle. Chop into bite sized pieces. In the meantime, while the potatoes are cooking, slice bacon pieces in small slices about the size of your little fingers width. Use as much bacon as you like, some people like a lot. Just use your own judgement. I like a lot of bacon in the salad. When the bacon is cooked, but not crisp add a coarsely chopped onion. Cook till the onion is clear but not soft. Pour the bacon & onion, fat and all over the hot cooked potato pieces. Use your judgement on the bacon fat too. Some bacon is fattier than others. Season with salt, pepper and cider vinegar to your taste. I like it tangy. We do not add sugar to this recipe in my family. My grandmother was a 3rd generation German, and her mother made the traditional recipes when she was growing up because she used to tell me about things like liver dumplings. My grandmother made her potato salad this way. My grandfather's family was of English extraction but it had been in the USA since 1635 so he liked more of a New England type of cooking . I think this salad was probably the only thing left of my great grandmother's cooking besides eating saurkraut and sausages. Jean ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:04:47 -0500 From: PPFQP@AOL.COM Subject: Recipe Request Hi. I'm looking for a recipe for a dip (might be of Greek origin) that's made from potatoes (mashed) and roasted garlic. You eat it cold with pita triangles or crackers. Anyone heard of something like this??? I know I've seen recipes before, but of course now that I am on the lookout, I can't find anything! Thanks! : ) Pam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:57:16 -0500 From: Toni Office <Captiva4me@AOL.COM> Subject: Re: Looking for Bruschetta Recipes In a message dated 97-03-03 19:33:31 EST, you write: << Am planning to serve (brushchetta) at a fashion show for 400 women in April, so they cannot be served hot. >> All the bruschetta I've ever had and the recipe that I use, is served hot. Perhaps you are thinking of tapenade -- which is served cold. Toni ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:53:05 -0800 From: Bill Spalding <billspa@ICANECT.NET> Subject: Re: Recipe Request PPFQP@aol.com wrote: > > Hi. I'm looking for a recipe for a dip (might be of Greek origin) that's made > from potatoes (mashed) and roasted garlic. You eat it cold with pita > triangles or crackers. > Pam I think this might be what you're looking for: * Exported from MasterCook II * Skordalia Recipe By : Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Greek Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 4 Medium Potatoes 6 Garlic Cloves (Or More!) 1/2 Cup Olive Oil 1/3 Cup White Vinegar* 1 Pinch Salt *Note-- Lemon juice may be substituted for part of the white vinegar. Peel potatoes, boil, then mash. Let cool. In blender or food processor, process the garlic with a bit of the oil til almost paste-like. Transfer to electric mixer bowl. Add potatoes, beating until mixture resembles a paste. Gradually add remaining olive oil and vinegar/lemon juice, beating thoroughly until well absorbed. Add salt, taste for seasoning, and beat until the sauce is very thick and smooth, adding more vinegar if necessary. Cover and refrigerate until ready to serve. From: "The Food of Greece" by Vilma Liacouras Chantiles. Avenel Books, New York. Typed for you by Karen Mintzias - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- BillS. :) >From beautiful suburban West Palm Beach, FL ---Vegetarians eat vegetables-Beware of humanitarians ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:59:57 -0400 From: Edward Collins-Hughes <ecollins@HAVERFORD.EDU> Subject: spaghetti dinner? Friends have invited a group for spaghetti/meatball dinner! I having so many cokbooks was asked to surprised the group with a nibble before dinner..most of us are lactoste intolerance, so any ideas with cream, cream cheese, sour cream are verbotim! does anyone have any ideas? I've looked through my collection at ideas for spaghetti meals and I find very little that I can use..I think it ought to be something that is light,and doesn't make you feel filled.. edward ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:09:28 -0800 From: Bill Spalding <billspa@ICANECT.NET> Subject: Re: whipped topping jdashiel@eagle1.eaglenet.com wrote: > > Neither the tub toping nor the canned topping will stand up > for very long unless frozen. pipe whipped > > topping around the edges. I did that and it looked wonderful. > > > > The problem is it melted pronto, I mean within 30 seconds. The cake was anyone have > > any experience with this? One of my favorite tricks to solve this problem while not having to use stabilized whip cream is to get "Dream Whip". This is a powder that you mix with cold milk and whip. For piping and icing I use the pantry size package (all of the envelopes) and use only 2/3 of the required milk. You will have a wonderfully stiff whipped topping that will last all day. It will last 3 or 4 days if you refrigerate the baked goods immediately after serving. This filling is also excellent for creme filled puffs. You may wish to add a little *clear* vanilla depending. Hope this is a little help. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Rochelle > > > > jude <jdashiel@eagle1.eaglenet.com> -- BillS. :) >From beautiful suburban West Palm Beach, FL ---Vegetarians eat vegetables-Beware of humanitarians ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:23:48 +0000 From: Deborah Kirwan <dkkirwan@CREIGHTON.EDU> Subject: Request: Chocolate Turtle Bread Pudding with Caramel Sauce My son will turn 20 in less than a month, and he has requested a Chocolate Turtle Bread Pudding with Caramel (or Butterscotch) Sauce for his birthday cake. He had it at a restaurant once, and he loved it. Does anyone have a recipe? TIA, Deb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:19:05 EDT From: Barbara klear <BKLEAR@IGSRGLIB01.ER.USGS.GOV> Subject: Re: Turtle Cake I downloaded this from this list a while back: From: jrjet@whidbey.net (Dot & Tim McChesney) Verla's Turtle Cake 1 Package German Chocolate Cake Mix Ingredients called for on cake mix box 14oz Package Caramels 5 oz can Evaporated Milk 3/4 cup Margarine 1 cup Pecans (chopped ) 1 cup Chocolate Chips Preheat Oven to 350 Mix cake as per box directions. Grease a 9x13 pan. Bake a little less than half of the batter for 15 minutes. Melt the caramels, margarine and milk in the microwave (about 10 minutes) stirring a couple of times. Pour caramel mixture over cake, sprinkle with nuts and chocolate chips. Pour the rest of the cake mix over the top. Bake 20-35 minutes more, test for doneness. Barbara Klear bklear@usgs.gov Barbara Klear bklear@usgs.gov ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:36:06 +0000 From: Lori Calvin <CALVINL@PATTONVILLE.K12.MO.US> Subject: Re: 7-layer salad DATE: March 4, 1997 SUBJECT: RE: 7-layer salad Here is the approximate version of the recipe for the 7-layer salad. I left the actual recipe at home today. I will try to remember it tomorrow. 7-layer Salad 1 bag of lettuce (or you can cut up your own) 2 green peppers cut and diced 1 red onion cut and diced 1 lb of bacon (fried) 1 box frozen peas 2 cups shredded chedder cheese top with dressing (see recipe) sauce recipe 1 cup mayonnaise 1 cup sour cream 1/2 cup hidden valley ranch dressing I am not sure if these measurements on the dressing are correct. I will send the correct amounts tomorrow. Sorry. In a 13" x 9" pan layer it with the lettuce, then cut the green peppers and layer them next. Next is to cut the onion and add it, then the box of frozen peas. Fry the bacon till it is nice and crispy. Crumble it and layer it on the salad. Add the cheese. On top of all of this you add the sauce. It tastes best when it is cold. ¶----------------------------------------------------------------------------¶ ¶ Lori L. Calvin Pattonville School District ¶ ¶ (314) 213-8051 High School Library Clerk ¶ ¶ calvinl@pattonville.k12.mo.us ¶ ¶----------------------------------------------------------------------------¶ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:38:00 -0500 From: "Rinck, Marvin L." <mrinck@NATIONAL.AAA.COM> Subject: REQUEST: sour orange recipes I just bought a house that came with 3 citrus trees. Two orange and one grapefruit. The grapefruit is WONDERFUL but the oranges are sour. I have been told that they would be good for marmalade. Please post any orange marmalade recipes or any other recipe that could make use of sour oranges. Thanks Marvin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 11:58:55 -0500 From: Molly Rood <rogue@DPLUS.NET> Subject: Re: whipped topping Dear Rochelle, Sadly, Cool Whip and canned whipped topping just won't hold up. I would recommend taking the extra time and making the whipped cream from scratch. I have a recipe for Black Forest cake and it calls for 3 cups of whipping (or heavy) cream and 1/3 cup confectioners sugar. Beat together in a chilled bowl at high speed until stiff peaks form. (It should be firm enough to spread with a knife... not soft and cloud-like) I also included a recipe for a fantastic chocolate whipped cream frosting that my mom gave me and it holds up fine when piped onto a cake. It makes any plain chocolate cake very special. Good Luck! Molly Rood * Exported from MasterCook * Whipped Cream Chocolate Frosting Recipe By : Mom Jones Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Desserts Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1 1/2 cups heavy whipping cream -- cold 1/4 cup sugar 2 tablespoons cocoa 1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract Mix (do not whip) all ingredients in a bowl. Set in the refrigerator to chill for at least 2 hours. Then beat until mixture is so thick it holds it's shape and will stand in peaks. This makes enough frosting for top, sides and between layers of 2 layer cake, even when you use a generous hand. Note: Pop cake in refrigerator after frosting to allow to set. Store cake in refrigerator so frosting will not spoil. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Hi, folks, > > This weekend I made a Black Forest Cherry Cake as a trial run for a party I'm > having. I'm glad I did because now I have a question. It said to pipe whipped > topping around the edges. I did that and it looked wonderful. > > The problem is it melted pronto, I mean within 30 seconds. The cake was > completely cooled and I used the whipped topping in the tub. I was wondering > if I used the kind in the can if that would stand up better. Does anyone have > any experience with this? I like things to be quick and easy, but I will make > the whipped topping from scratch if I have to. > > Any suggestions? > > Rochelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:35:00 -0800 From: Stephanie Miles <Stephanie_Miles@UCSDLIBRARY.UCSD.EDU> Subject: Black Forest Cake Request and Chat All this talk of Black Forest Cake and the various ways to top it have got me wanting Black Forest Cake! Has anyone got a well-tried recipe to share? As an aside, you know I was all excited to try the Pig-Lickin' Cake recipe that was posted last week. Well, I was vetoed. I had all the ingredients out and ready to go when Hubby and Child both declared the concept "wierd." Did anyone try it? I could taste vicariously through you--was it good? All weekend, if I did something that the little one thought strange, she and Dad licked the air--just Mom licking pigs again. I won't live this one down for quite a while!--StephM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:11:52 -0500 From: Lynne Fraser <Lynne_Fraser@BROWN.EDU> Subject: Recipe: Turtle Cake I hope this recipe isn't too late for the person who requested Turtle Cake; I get my daily digests at work and can't always read them right away or respond very quickly. This recipe comes from the new Women's Day Cookbook and was a big hit at a recent family gathering. It was easy to make (children could help) but looked and tasted much richer than you might expect from a cake mix based recipe. Turtle Cake Serves 18 Prep time: 15 minutes Baking time: one hour 1 bag (14 oz.) vanilla caramels 1 can (5 oz.) evaporated milk 1 box (18 1/4 oz.) German chocolate cake mix with pudding (use the mix that calls for vegetable oil) 3/4 cup butter at room temperature 1 bag (12 oz.) semi-sweet chocolate chips 2 cups pecans, chopped 1. Heat oven to 350. Line 13x9 inch pan with foil and lightly grease foil. 2. In a small saucepan, heat caramels and milk over low heat, stirring occasionally, for about ten minutes or until caramels melt. 3. Using electric mixer, prepare cake mix according to package directions, using only half the oil called for on the box. Beat on low speed for one minute. Add butter, increase mixer speed to high and beat for two minutes more or until batter is thick and smooth. 4. Spread half the batter (about 3 cups) into the prepared pan. Bake for 12-14 minutes, or until cake starts to puff up around the edges (the middle will still be slightly wet). 5. Pour the caramel mixture over the cake and spread to the edges of the pan with a rubber spatula. Sprinkle with one cup of the chocolate chips and one cup of the pecans. Spoon the remaining cake batter over the top and carefully spread to the edges. 6. Bake for 35-45 minutes more, or until the cake puffs up above the sides of the pan, springs back when gently pressed and starts to pull away from the sides of the pan. Set pan on wire rack to cool. 7. Meanwhile melt the remaining one cup of chocolate chips. Spread over the cooled cake. Sprinkle with remaining pecans. Let cool completely. Makes 18 rectangles 474 cal, 5g pro, 55g carb, 28g fat, 25mg chol w/butter, 4mg chol with margarine, 322mg sod My notes: I substitued a dark chocolate cake mix for the German chocolate and walnuts for the pecans. Both changes worked out fine. I thought the foil lining was a pain and will probably skip it when I make the cake again. Most important, the final cup of melted chocolate chips was not enough to fully cover the top of the cake to the degree that I would prefer. The chopped nuts were used somewhat strategically to cover rough patches. :) I would double the recommended amount for the frosting to two cups of chips plus add a bit of butter to keep it softer when it hardens. I will definitely make this cake again. Enjoy! ****************************************** Lynne Fraser Associate Director, Brown Annual Fund Brown University, Box 1976, Providence, RI 02912 Phone: (401) 863-1633 Fax: (401) 863-3866 ****************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:22:16 -0600 From: Rochelle Krueger <KRUEGERR@PLATTE.UNK.EDU> Subject: Re: Black Forest Cherry Cake First of all, a big thank you for the whipped topping ideas. I am going to make it from scratch rather than try the can. The recipe I used was really quite simple. To jazz up the appearance, I used a flan pan I got at a Pampered Chef party awhile back. I'm doing this from memory. I hope it makes sense. 1 devil's food cake mix, prepared according to directions. Grease pan well. (For the flan pan I also used parchment paper and increased the baking time to 20-25 minutes. Otherwise bake according to directions.) Leave in pan for about 10 minutes. Then remove from baking pan and let cool completely. Take one can (21 oz.) cherry pie filling and add 1/2 tsp. almond flavoring. Spoon onto cake. Pipe around edges with whipped topping. Refrigerate. Enjoy! Rochelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:54:34 -0500 From: Sean Coate <swcoate@PEGANET.COM> Subject: Question: Menus For dinner I usually just look through my recipes at lunchtime (I work at home) and run to the store for whatever I need. However, it would be nice to have everything here at home so I could save money both in gas and last minute purchases. My question is - How do you guys set up your menus? Do you have beef on Monday, Fish on Tuesday, Pork on Wednesday, etc. or is there another way you do it? Do you plan a menu for the whole month or just for a week? Please let me know. I am deeply interested. Thanks!! Kim from Ft Myers, FL swcoate@peganet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:09:24 -0500 From: Sean Coate <swcoate@PEGANET.COM> Subject: GOOD FOOD!! Here's what I fixed for supper last night. * Exported from MasterCook II * SPANISH CHICKEN AND RICE CASSEROLE Recipe By : Bush's Baked Beans Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Chicken & Turkey Beans Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 6 boneless skinless chicken breasts -- cut into strips 1 (28 oz) or 2 (16 oz) cans of Bush's Baked Beans 1 (14 1/2 oz) can stewed tomatoes 1 1/2 cups water 1/2 cup uncooked rice 1 teaspoon chili powder 1/2 teaspoon garlic salt 1 tablespoon vegetable oil Combine chili powder and garlic salt, sprinkle over chicken. In skillet, brown chicken in hot oil. Combine chicken and remaining ingredients in lightly greased 3-quart baking dish. Cover and bake at 400F for 45 minutes or until rice is cooked. Makes 6 servings. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * Exported from MasterCook II * CREAMED PEAS AND POTATOES ( also COR II) Recipe By : Linda Nilsen Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Side Dishes Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 4 medium red potatoes -- cubed 1 package (10 oz) frozen peas 1 teaspoon sugar 2 tablespoons butter 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour 1/2 teaspoon salt 1/4 teaspoon white pepper 1 1/2 cups milk 2 tablespoons minced fresh dill Place potatoes in a saucepan; cover with water and cook until tender. Cook peas according to package directions, adding the sugar. Meanwhile, melt butter in a saucepan; add flour, salt and pepper to form a paste. Gradually stir in milk. Bring to a boil; boil for 1 minute. Add dill; cook until thickened and bubbly. Drain potatoes and peas; place in a serving bowl. Pour sauce over and stir to coat. Serve immediately. YIELD: 6-8 servings - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - NOTES : I used a 16 oz package of early June peas. Here's what I am planing for tonight. * Exported from MasterCook II * DEEP-DISH HAM PIE Recipe By : Lucinda Walker (ToH Feb/Mar 97) Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Pork Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1/4 cup butter 1/4 cup all-purpose flour 1/2 teaspoon salt 1/4 teaspoon ground mustard 1/8 teaspoon pepper 1 cup milk 1 teaspoon dried minced onion 2 1/2 cups cubed fully cooked ham 1 cup frozen peas -- thawed 2 hard-cooked eggs -- chopped Pastry for single-crust pie (8 inches) Melt butter in a saucepan; stir in flour, salt, mustard and pepper until smooth. Gradually add milk and onion; bring to a boil. Cook and stir for 2 minutes or until thickened. Stir in ham, peas and eggs. Pour into an ungreased 8-in square or 11-in x 7-in x 2-in baking dish. On a floured surface, roll pastry to fit top of dish; place over filling. Seal and flute edges; cut slits in the top. Bake at 425F for 25 minutes or until crust is golden brown and filling is bubbly. YIELD: 6 servings - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - NOTES : I always at least lightly spray my pans with a nonstick spray. I also usually just used minced onion instead of dried minced onion. * Exported from MasterCook II * HOT FUDGE CAKE Recipe By : Vera Reid (ToH Collector's Edition) Serving Size : 9 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Cakes & Frostings Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1 cup all-purpose flour 3/4 cup sugar 6 tablespoons baking cocoa -- divided 2 teaspoons baking powder 1/4 teaspoon salt 1/2 cup milk 2 tablespoons vegetable oil 1 teaspoon vanilla extract 1 cup packed brown sugar 1 3/4 cups hot water Whipped cream or ice cream -- optional In a medium bowl, combine flour, sugar, 2 Tbsp cocoa, baking powder and salt. Stir in the milk, oil and vanilla until smooth. Spread in an ungreased 9-in square baking pan. Combine brown sugar and remaining cocoa; sprinkle over batter. Pour hot water over all; do not stir. Bake at 350 for 35-40 minutes. Serve warm. Top with whipped cream or ice cream if desired. YIELD: 9 servings - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hope you enjoy! Kim from Ft Myers, FL swcoate@peganet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:43:55 -0600 From: Ken Quann & Jane Lockhart <kenquann@ESCAPE.CA> Subject: Re: planning menues I am interested in suggestions about planning menus also. I like to purchase two weeks worth of groceries at a time, and I have thought about menu planning, but I do not really know where to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Jane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 05:34:08 -0800 From: C <jazzbel@MAIL.BATELNET.BS> Subject: Re: REQUEST: sour orange recipes Rinck, Marvin L. wrote: > > I just bought a house that came with 3 citrus trees. Two orange and one > grapefruit. The grapefruit is WONDERFUL but the oranges are sour. I > have been told that they would be good for marmalade. Please post any > orange marmalade recipes or any other recipe that could make use of sour > oranges. > > Thanks > > Marvin You can use sour orange juice in place of vinegar when washing meat. You can use the peel for making candied orange peel. Any recipe for marmalade with sweet oranges will do for sour oranges as well. You can use sour orange juice to clean fish instead of lime juice. You can also add hot pepper to the sour orange juice and use it as a pepper sauce. Jazzbel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:02:53 -0500 From: "<Lynne Podany>" <Tomczech@AOL.COM> Subject: Bread Dear All: I baked the french bread that I had asked about the proofing, this morning. It came out very well. I wanted to thank all for the responses/suggestions about proofing at 90 degrees. The one I used was to heat my oven at the lowest temp. for 1 minute, turn it off, cover the dough with a wrung out wet towel and let it proof in there. Thanks again!! Lynne - New Orleans P.S. I made the lemon poppy seed bread (that I got from this list), (2 loaves) and it came out delicious! I couldn't find coconut instant pudding mix so I used French Vanilla - I'm sure the coconut is wonderful! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:57:57 -0800 From: Jennie Paxton <jpaxton@SMLNET.SML.LIB.LA.US> Subject: Re: Question: Menus On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, Sean Coate wrote: > For dinner I usually just look through my recipes at lunchtime (I work at > home) and run to the store for whatever I need. However, it would be nice to > have everything here at home so I could save money both in gas and last > minute purchases. My question is - How do you guys set up your menus? Do you > have beef on Monday, Fish on Tuesday, Pork on Wednesday, etc. or is there > another way you do it? Do you plan a menu for the whole month or just for a > week? Please let me know. I am deeply interested. > Thanks!! > I usually plan a week's menus Saturday, using the "sale paper" from my grocery store as a guide. I try to plan meals around what is on sale each week, unless there is a particular meal which I (or my husband has been craving.) And I try to plan a variety -- not all chicken dishes, etc. I also try to plan meals that make extra (we like leftovers for lunch -- sandwiches get awfully tiresome after awhile). I then go to the grocery store, shopping list in hand. Usually, I have planned well enough that we don't have to make a quick trip to the store to pick up forgotten items (although -- I forgot buttermilk for the cornbread last night!!! We substituted the milk with vinegar instead of running to the store!) Hope this helps. Jennie W. Paxton, Public Relations Coordinator jpaxton@smlnet.sml.lib.la.us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 07:10:51 -0800 From: C <jazzbel@MAIL.BATELNET.BS> Subject: Re: Question: Menus I plan my menus for a week at a time. I buy Fruits & Vegetables once a week. I buy meats and things for the freezer twice a month. I always keep plenty of the supplies I use everyday in my house, i.e., I would never be caught without onions, cilantro, garlic, eggs. I also keep a well packed pantry of condiments and spices. 1) I check my freezer on Thursday night and decided which meats I will be eating throughout the week. 2) I scour the cookbooks, to decide how I am going to cook the different meats, I write down the name of the recipe and page number. If there are any ingredients I do not have in the house, I either put them on the Friday shopping list, or I decide to cook the recipe without it. 3) Then I decide which breads and starches will go with the meat, whether I am going to buy or bake them, and write any ingredients I need on the list. 4) Now I decide on desserts and snacks: either fruits, cakes, etc... I again write needed ingredients on the list. 5) Then I decide which vegetables. Add to the list. I shop on Friday after work. On Saturday, I bake all breads, muffins and cakes needed for the week. I freeze the goods I will use later in the week. I also always choose a quick-to-prepare meal(I'm into Balti cooking these days), because I proceed to do the laundry and clean house. When I choose the recipes I am going to use I do consider my schedule during the week, e.g., choosing a crockpot dish if I know I will get home late. It takes time, but I enjoy it. If I must go to a picnic or wedding on a Saturday, I perform the above chores in advance. I have not bought bread in the store in six years, very rarely eat out, and avoid convenience foods because over here they are expensive imports. I have not wasted any vegetables or fruits in a long, long time. What I have not tried is to keep track of this with Mastercook, that way, if I could store 52 menus, it might save me a couple of minutes on Thursday night. Sean Coate wrote: > > For dinner I usually just look through my recipes at lunchtime (I work at > home) and run to the store for whatever I need. However, it would be nice to > have everything here at home so I could save money both in gas and last > minute purchases. My question is - How do you guys set up your menus? Do you > have beef on Monday, Fish on Tuesday, Pork on Wednesday, etc. or is there > another way you do it? Do you plan a menu for the whole month or just for a > week? Please let me know. I am deeply interested. > Thanks!! > > Kim from Ft Myers, FL > swcoate@peganet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:10:36 -0500 From: mary curtis <curtism@FUSE.NET> Subject: La Creusette Cookware Question I just bought a casserole with a cover at Tuesday Morning. I am so happy because I have waited a long time for it. It is a 5 quart oval with a wonderful lid and enamel handles. The other choice would have been 4 1/2 quarts round. Tomorrow I am going over to pick up the 3 1/2 quart round one. The prices are wonderful. The problem is for general use I wonderful if it would be better to go just a little smaller and get the 4 1/2 round instead of the 5 quart oval. (That one would be perfect for a roast chicken or small turkey, for sure, but I don't know how oval would be for making chili.) You would think I was buying a car instead of a pot I am making such a big deal out of this. Please e-mail me privately as this subject may not be of interest to others. Thanks. Mary Curtis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:53:54 CST From: C622632@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU Subject: Re: Question: Menus Hi Kim, I used to plan for a month at a time. I would do the bulk of my shopping with my menu in hand. I did not rigidly adhere to the set of planned menus, however, I did not have to run to the store very often (except for the fresh vergies and fruit). Also, my family was aware of what was going to be served and knew when to ask someone over for dinner... usually when it was a favorite of whoever they asked. It did make life simpler. It was also rather fun. I would sit down on a Sunday afternoon and do my planning and enjoy some tea and go through cookbooks. Now, it seems I am so busy that I do not take the time to plan. Perhaps I would have more time if I went back to that method. I do know my family appreciated it. They would always put in their requests and the menu was always posted on the refrigerator. Kandis smithk@ext.missouri.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:13:06 -0500 From: Melissa Ray <MRay622@AOL.COM> Subject: Request: Couscous Hi all thanks for all the great recipes over the last few weeks. I was wondering if any of you had an authentic recipe for couscous. I normally make it with garlic and hot sauce and throw in some vegtables or what ever I have in the house. Any actual recipes would be appreciate. Thanks in advance Melissa ------------------------------ End of EAT-L Digest - 3 Mar 1997 to 4 Mar 1997 - Special issue **************************************************************

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